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MetalManiac 01-12-2009 01:18 AM

Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
I'm going to put away some rice, beans and grains
into 5 gallon buckets.

I bought the right Mylar bags from SorbentSystems
and have a bunch of buckets.

Which Mylar Bag Sealer should I get to seal the Mylar bags?
I'm looking for one that costs less than $100?

Thanks. :banana:

LukeNM 01-12-2009 01:22 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
I am not an expert, but don't you use a regular flat iron -- like the kind used to iron your clothes?

MetalManiac 01-12-2009 01:27 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeNM (Post 1507495)
I am not an expert, but don't you use a regular flat iron -- like the kind used to iron your clothes?


Yes, you can.

I may go this route since it's so INEXPENSIVE.

Sorbent Systems also has a "HOT JAW" Sealer.

It's $135

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/hotjaw.html

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/images/hotjaw.gif

Goldeneye 01-12-2009 01:29 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
How to seal Mylar bags with a clothes Iron...


MetalManiac 01-12-2009 01:53 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Awesome video.

Thanks Goldeneye. :ok:

I've seen a few PAW vids, but not this one.

I think I'll go to ChinaMart tomorrow and get an IRON! bancha

LowDow 01-12-2009 01:57 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Check these out ...but call first to make sure it is the one with the 9/16" wide sealing strip.
http://www.sealersandsupplies.com/mm...ndheld-sealers
http://www.heatsealers.com/pc-36275-...5-mm-seal.aspx
Sorbent systems has the sealers for about $82 ea if you buy 6 ($492). I wish I knew of some people in my state to do a group buy. But really when you think of shipping ect it would not work out.
Here are the iron sealing instructions from the sorbent system web site.
http://sorbentsystems.com/mylariron.html

LowDow 01-12-2009 02:15 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Here is another method. She uses a vacuum sealer. I don't know that the I thin sealing strip would be enough. It is much more interesting to watch her sealing the buckets than the other guy....IMHO.


George Spelvin 01-12-2009 07:52 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Part of the prepping mindset is frugality. My $2 thrift store iron has never failed to do the job right. Leave a corner for your vaccuum nozzle, and when finished removing air, quickly seal it. Use the $98 you saved to buy more food.

j-son 01-12-2009 08:33 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
nice videos

Drumblebum 01-12-2009 09:29 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LowDow (Post 1507526)
Here is another method. She uses a vacuum sealer. I don't know that the I thin sealing strip would be enough. It is much more interesting to watch her sealing the buckets than the other guy....IMHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pal88...eature=related

This is an awesome video... it's actually the one that gave the the confidence I needed to get really going on do-it-yourself food preservation. A regular clothes iron works perfect (and makes a MUCH better seal than the food saver), but if you're sort of lame (like me) expect to have to do the first one or two over again... practice, practice, practice!

Armed.peasant 01-12-2009 10:00 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
I have the sealer from SorbentSystems. I use it for long term storage in mylar for medical purposes. The sealer they have does a great job. I have used an iron in the past with some air leaks. I also use the sealer on 6 mil plastic bags at a lowwer setting and it seal them as well as the mylar.

diversified2 01-12-2009 10:07 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
I sealed up some whole bean coffee with my iron and vacuum sealed it. For some reason the coffee released gas and blew up like a mylar balloon. One of the bags burst open but not along the edge I sealed with the iron so I guess the cheap old iron works just fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!

elroy 01-12-2009 10:34 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Has anyone used the "lovely" orange buckets from Home Depot for long term food storage?

They have lids with gaskets and the buckets are marked #2.

I would place the food in mylar bags and then in the bucket.

Will this work?

RealityCheck 01-12-2009 10:43 AM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
The hot jaw sealers are well worth the money. It makes things so much quicker and easier, especially if you want to do gallon mylars. Try doing a few dozen gallon mylar bags with an iron. Talk about tedious!

Goldeneye 01-12-2009 12:53 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
I'm planning on doing my first long term storage hense coming across the video's.. My question is...

What size Mylar bags should I be buying for the 5 gal buckets???

LowDow 01-12-2009 02:15 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
You need bags with a gas release valve for coffie. It gives of gas for a while after roasting! It's galled a degassing valve.

diversified2 01-12-2009 02:20 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LowDow (Post 1508115)
You need bags with a gas release valve for coffie. It gives of gas for a while after roasting! It's galled a degassing valve.

Thanks for the info!!!!

MetalManiac 01-12-2009 03:11 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldeneye (Post 1507985)
I'm planning on doing my first long term storage hense coming across the video's.. My question is...

What size Mylar bags should I be buying for the 5 gal buckets???


www.SorbentSystems.com 20" X 30" PAKVF4 4.3 mils

Fit the 5 gallon bucket great! :ok:

MetalManiac 01-12-2009 03:14 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Here's a great idea I found on ARFCOM (AR15.com)

Rice & Beans in 5 Gallon Buckets!

Put approximately 25 lbs of rice into the bucket. This leaves about 6" of free space which you can put in 7lbs of various dry beans. This way you have my 4 : 1 rice to beans ratio for proper protein and don't have to open up too many buckets at once.

Mylar bags for 10 lbs beans:
145VST16ID at www.SorbentSystems.com

:ok:

CrufflerJJ 01-12-2009 04:50 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armed.peasant (Post 1507793)
I have the sealer from SorbentSystems. I use it for long term storage in mylar for medical purposes. The sealer they have does a great job. I have used an iron in the past with some air leaks. I also use the sealer on 6 mil plastic bags at a lowwer setting and it seal them as well as the mylar.

I've sealed stuff up with an iron in the past, but am thinking about getting a Sorbent Systems sealer to make sure the seals are good. If you watch the first video above, it looks like there are a good number of wrinkles in his seam. Not good.

Goldeneye 01-12-2009 05:10 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalManiac (Post 1508198)
www.SorbentSystems.com 20" X 30" PAKVF4 4.3 mils

Fit the 5 gallon bucket great! :ok:

Thanks for the link and code number :)

H'mmm ...Just looked at the site.. Isn't that a clear plastic bag and not a mylar one ??? says Foil one side
-Clear the other

MetalManiac 01-12-2009 05:49 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
It's this product on their Mylar page:
http://www.sorbentsystems.com/mylar.html


20" X 30" PAKVF4 4.3 mils
http://sorbentsystems.com/specs/pakvf4.html

CrufflerJJ 01-12-2009 10:16 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elroy (Post 1507841)
Has anyone used the "lovely" orange buckets from Home Depot for long term food storage?

They have lids with gaskets and the buckets are marked #2.

I would place the food in mylar bags and then in the bucket.

Will this work?

I've got half a dozen or so in use right now, and they should be OK if you use mylar liners. I'm not sure if they're "food grade" plastic, so would try not to use them for direct contact food use.

Stealinator 03-25-2009 02:44 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by diversified2 (Post 1507798)
I sealed up some whole bean coffee with my iron and vacuum sealed it. For some reason the coffee released gas and blew up like a mylar balloon. One of the bags burst open but not along the edge I sealed with the iron so I guess the cheap old iron works just fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, figure out what went wrong? Asking due to my 50# of coffee beans arriving tommorow. Plan on putting in 1 mylar/5 gal bucket, the rest in 1 1/2 gal mylar bags. Guess will have to tripple up on oxy absorbers due to all the air space within the bean itself. Actually have 5 dif types of beans coming, if anyone is interested, can leave feedback , of course will try each to see how it taste. Someone else on forum gave me the link, I ordered 2 day ago.
http://www.coffeebeandirect.com/pric...e4c7a85d4eea4d

Stealinator 03-25-2009 02:48 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
So there is no way around it for long term storage of coffee beans? need a gas relief valve? that really sounds like a hassle and making the process somewhat complex.

Drumblebum 03-25-2009 02:58 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalManiac (Post 1507513)
Awesome video.

Thanks Goldeneye. :ok:

I've seen a few PAW vids, but not this one.

I think I'll go to ChinaMart tomorrow and get an IRON! bancha

Why would you get a chinamart iron when you can get THIS:

Drumblebum 03-25-2009 03:00 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
A regular iron does work really well. It took me a few bags to get the technique down, and I had to redo a couple of bags, but I don't see much of a reason to spend all that money on a hot jaw sealer...
EDIT: I didn't realize I had already posted to this thread... HEH!

CrufflerJJ 03-25-2009 04:46 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 1645457)
A regular iron does work really well. It took me a few bags to get the technique down, and I had to redo a couple of bags, but I don't see much of a reason to spend all that money on a hot jaw sealer...
EDIT: I didn't realize I had already posted to this thread... HEH!

Of the 5 gal mylar bags I've sealed with a regular iron, only one of them failed to seal properly. I'm not sure if the bag got a hole punched in it from crinkling/folding, or if the seam didn't seal properly. In any case, I always double-triple check the pails a day or two after sealing to make sure they're "sucked in" (oxy absorbers). I'll have to repack that pail.

Ag_man 03-25-2009 06:41 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
I'll stick to my iron and a piece of 2" x 4". Never had a failure yet!

MetalManiac 03-25-2009 07:05 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
I ended up buying an $8 iron from China-Mart.

WORKS GREAT! :RockOn:


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mayhem 03-25-2009 08:16 PM

Re: Looking for a Good Mylar Bag Sealer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elroy (Post 1507841)
Has anyone used the "lovely" orange buckets from Home Depot for long term food storage?

They have lids with gaskets and the buckets are marked #2.

I would place the food in mylar bags and then in the bucket.

Will this work?

Yup as CrufferJJ says below. There on sale right now (here anyway)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1508811)
I've got half a dozen or so in use right now, and they should be OK if you use mylar liners. I'm not sure if they're "food grade" plastic, so would try not to use them for direct contact food use.

Any bucket with the 2 in the triangle and marked HDPE, are FOOD GRADE.
Homer buckets are a little thinner than some others though, so use a mylar bag. I bought some full buckets from Walton Foods that must have had way to many ox obsr's out side of the mylar as the buckets sucked in so much that the bucket side cracked open.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I have only used a iron and a 2x4 to seal my buckets.


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